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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2010.07.07 23:44:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 07/07/2010 23:49:40
The Star Fraction Alliance took sovereignty in YWS0-Z system in Providence following the UK/AAA led victory over CVA. In the weeks following the CVA/Sev3rance withdrawal at the successful conclusion of our own Black Lustrum campaign, the Star Fraction was invited by our Matari allies in the UshraÆkhan to establish a presence in YWS0-Z the better to light a beacon for Freespace settlement in the region and this we did in a matter of weeks constructing the first Freeport in New Providence TAZ Nortlonto demonstrating our endless commitment to freedom and adventure on the frontier with opportunity and commerce for all.
But the revolution can never rest, Providence has been liberated but The Star Fraction returns to the fight in the Bleaklands invigorated and hungry to the drumbeat of Freedom's driving song. The CVA may have scattered and driven like yellow dogs but the stink of imperialism is on the rise and call to battle cannot be ignored.
Our allies in Royal Order of Security Specialists [ROSS] have been sorely pressed in recent months by the resurgent fleet power and confidence of the 24th Crusade spearheaded by the ex Huzzah Federation capital ship specialists: Core Impulse. But the Free Captains of the Star Fraction will not stand by and see our friends and comrades of the great battles of space and freedom left to dangle in the stellar winds while life and breath remain in our immortal bodies!
So battle group relocation has been accomplished, plans are laid and the Star Fraction returns to the Bleaklands warzone and gives notice of imminent conflict with the regressive imperialists of Core Impulse and their supporters in the 24th Crusade. We commit to the fray without limits or restraint and will stand side by side with our allies when the day turns darkest and the stormclouds gather.
Let slip the docking arrays, clear the blaster racks for firing! Anarchist revolutionaries unite with Free Matari tribal fighters, anti-imperialist insurgents, and firebrand insurrectionists from all corners of the star cluster to carry the fight against theocratic catamites and patriarchical hierarchs in all their gilded space palaces and fleshpots of the Bleaklands.
War has come. Let us sing the songs of freedom as we turn our weapons on the foes of human liberation!
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Posted - 2010.07.08 01:10:00 -
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 Originally by: Verone
Good luck to the Freecaptains, however be warned that there are some severely underhanded pilots within the 24th, and Core Impulse.
Thank you Verone. And we'll be careful, we know what these Amarrian Nationalists are like by now 
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Posted - 2010.07.08 14:54:00 -
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Originally by: Ospie
About time, been looking for a fight. Not sure about the huzzah bit though, the corp is entirely different to what we were then.
We certainly do not underestimate you Ospie. This will be a stern test for the Fraction and our allies. You are capable and well-equipped, couragous and devoted to your regressive cause in Amarrian Nationalism. I suspect I will die and be reborn many times before this war is concluded. But its the way of a warrior-leader in New Eden to suffer such fates. Still we rise to the challenge and our past record in the warzone is full of achievement and sacrifice on both sides. To the fights ahead I salute you.
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Posted - 2010.07.08 15:56:00 -
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Originally by: Dunn Idaho
Core Impulse claims first Victory in the Corim - SF war as New Genesis Inc decides to abandon their comrades in SF and leaves the alliance in fear of Core Impulse.
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New Genesis Inc Retracts War Against Core Impulse
From: CONCORD
Sent: 2010.07.08 00:38
The war between New Genesis Inc and Core Impulse is coming to an end. New Genesis Inc has retracted the war against Core Impulse. The war will be declared as being over after approximately 24 hours.
At this rate Star Fraction are looking at losing their remaining corporations in a few days.
Time will tell though.
You may certainly claim this victory if you wish Dunn Idaho. But I will say that New Genesis Inc. were trialing with the Star Fraction for the last month or so and last night I took the decision in discussion with alliance directors that we didn't consider the trial had ended in a successful integration of interest and alliance culture and it would be better to separate ways on the eve of war than later on in the process.
This decision doesn't reflect badly on N.GEN whatsoever who were eager to fight in the war and disappointed the trial was ended unsuccessfully and we intend to maintain positive standings with N.GEN and have invited them to continue to utilize our 0.0 assets and infrastructure in YWS0-Z.
All part of the business of corporation and alliance leadership really. But as I say you may certainly count this as a symbol of victory as you like and perhaps seek the unravelling of our other corporate allies by the same timescale if you think its an achievable objective *smiles*.
But lets see.
War in space often proceeds in ways we none of us expect.
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Posted - 2010.07.08 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Revan Neferis
War is good.
Good luck to both. May it be a very profitable war in the region.
Pirate Alliances and Corporations wanting to take advantage of the busy scenario to come are welcome to do so. I'll finance your operations to make things more interesting to all.
Contact me privately.
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I love it when a war becomes a social event beautiful one. I hope it means all the best people will be coming to Kamela soon xxx
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Posted - 2010.07.09 12:38:00 -
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Regardless of the toothless grinding of old failed Amarrian loyalists in this thread the message of our intentions, methodology and measures of success or failure are all clearly indicated in the op. We are here to help our friends and comrades and put regressive nationalists to the sword. All else is irrelevant detail.
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Posted - 2010.07.09 12:54:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
In other words, no matter how things go you'll still claim victory.
We leave that strategy to Militant Amarrian Nationalists that hold rallys to the military strength of the Amarrian Empire chanting "AMARR VICTOR" in closed chat channels while their war enemies fully occupy space and superior position beyond the docking bays half a kilometer away.
Don't give up the day job Blake. You really are terrible at propaganda.
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Posted - 2010.07.09 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: The Cosmopolite
Originally by: Rodj Blake
In other words, no matter how things go you'll still claim victory.
No. We leave that sort of thing to people who squat in churches raving 'Amarr Victor' when they are outclassed in every way.
As Jade Constantine has said, the objective is clear enough from the announcement post.
The Cosmopolite
Get out of my mind Cosmo!
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Posted - 2010.07.09 13:44:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
subsequently blamed the failure on Minmatars betraying you.
The Minmatar people are not the treacherous Republic Fleet admirals discussed in these threads from the period.
Your lies continue but as The Cosmopolite indicates, this thread is to announce and discuss our new campaign and your attempt to derail and subvert with meaningless drivel as you have in 100 other threads before is not welcome.
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Posted - 2010.07.11 03:12:00 -
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Patience Ospie. Wars are like fine liquor, they aren't made in a couple of days - these things take months to develop.
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Posted - 2010.08.06 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Muad 'dib
What a disappointment, i thought star fraction were better than this.
Efforts to dampen our campain agianst the minmatar has been unaffective and direction confrontations few and far between. All mouth and no trousers when it comes to star fraction im afriad.
You probably need to be patient. At present it is quite clear our strong gangs are missing each other and when we come to Huola you are content to remain docked at the station there with 24th crusade support (entirely appropriate support mind) and in your strong times we avoid outnumbered engagements too. The war is low intensity at present because neither side is prepared to take many risks. Doubtless an attack on a starbase tower would increase the tempo, as would more obvious bait.
Still, even with my hilariously unfortunate Orca loss yesterday we are winning on the raw exchange of isk and hardware and the onus is probably on Core Impulse to change things up a gear if you are unhappy with the way the war is developing. Suffice to say SF is quite content to consider this a slow burning engagement that will doubtless heat up more when one side or the other is prepared to risk more on the field of battle.
If you want the war to be over then you must win it.
At the moment you are not.
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Posted - 2010.08.08 04:47:00 -
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Originally by: Ramingo
Dear Jade, your goal was to disrupt our activities in the Amarr Militia. Although you may have gotten an occasional kill against us and are winning isk wise, you have thus far failed to achieve your objective.
Our enemies do not get to declare our goals. The op post in this thread will suffice for that. But otherwise I agree with you. We are winning but have thus far failed to achieve our objective. Nothing much to disagree with.
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Posted - 2010.08.08 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: Merdaneth
I much prefer
As always the preferences of deceitful Amarrian Nationalists are irrelevant to the actions and ambitions of the Free Captains of the Star Fraction.
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Posted - 2010.08.09 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: Big MackDaddy
Who brought it up the isk/asset kill loss ratio is somewhat irrelevant.
Well it was you guys of course
Quote:
The first post by Jade indicates that the minmatar scoundrels have had a tough ride over the past months (buhu) and are in need of support, yet the minmatar fight alone as usual, the same as before you arrived since your minimal presence arrived.
The object of the campaign is to help our allies. We are helping our allies. Yes the war is a long way from being won. But if you want to decisively help us "lose it" then you will need to do more than lurk sullenly in the docking range of Huola station 22 hours day yourselves.
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Posted - 2010.08.09 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: Big MackDaddy
I thought id fight you where i can find you, safe and sound airing your piontless rants on the forum.
You are the one engaging in pointless rants. Perhaps you should come back when you have improved your performance in space a bit?
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Posted - 2010.08.09 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: Merdaneth
To my knowledge is was ms. Constantine who first brought up ISK values while it was Core Impulse that first brought up ship losses.
Originally by: Ramingo
Dear Jade, your goal was to disrupt our activities in the Amarr Militia. Although you may have gotten an occasional kill against us and are winning isk wise
You are still telling lies Merdaneth. You are easily caught out.
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Posted - 2010.08.09 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: Merdaneth
If ms. Constantine agrees with me that such statistics are not relevant to the current war then I would suggest she stops using them to claim victory.
Once again the suggestions of a deceitful Amarrian Nationalist are entirely without merit. As indeed is the false suggestion that I used such measures to claim any kind of victory. I said by certain measures it could be considered we were "winning". I certainly didn't claim to have "won". This war has a long long way to go before we come close to any announcement of that kind.
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Posted - 2010.08.09 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: Merdaneth
Not being prepared to take any risk on behalf of your allies doesn't sound like a winning strategy to me.
Again your opinions mean very little. You have no understanding of our military strategy and have no real involvement with the warzone. As a peanut gallery pundit your value in such discussions (never very great to begin with) was rendered null at around the time you left PIE.
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Posted - 2010.08.09 19:03:00 -
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Originally by: Big MackDaddy
you should retract your war and save yourselfs a few million, this isnt going any where.
Quit the Amarr milita and we will. But I think its probably a bit early for you to be thinking about surrender. Talk to us again in six months time.
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Posted - 2010.08.09 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: Big MackDaddy
The stuff on the forums saying we are hot drop happy or dishonerable etc i would rather stop and since thats all you guys are actually doing, i'll just have to ignore IG forum for 6 months instead. oh well.
Don't confuse our words with the words of other people. We've described you in pretty respectful terms publicy and I'd like to think you have found our clashes in space to be honestly fought with very little dodginess. If you want to maintain a respectful mood it is easy to do - just don't be sucked into the nonsense of our ordinary peanut-gallery forum trolls.
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Posted - 2010.08.09 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: Big MackDaddy
Looking forward to the next meaningful engagement and i hope it can be in space ^^
Agreed. See you out there!
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Posted - 2010.08.09 19:55:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Perhaps if you weren't a backstabbing coward...
Tomahawk Bliss has never been a coward and to my knowledge has never been renowned as a backstabber either. You on the other hand. Well, I admit its difficult to backstab anyone without undocking but I'm sure you've tried 
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Posted - 2010.08.10 11:05:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
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Right, because Eran Mintor can't ever turn back to the Minmatar after having been in the Amarr for a while - he'll always be a blood traitor.
If he genuinely cared about restoring his reputation he probably should have avoided cringing apologies to the Amarrian Nationalists on Galnet and ongoing association with such collaborators and quisling organizations like Annwn Matari.
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Posted - 2010.08.10 12:57:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Originally by: Jade Constantine
collaborators and quisling organizations like Annwn Matari.
I trust you have a similarly poor standard of proof for Annwn Matari's "collaboration" as you do for my own.
I said you were an Amarrian boot-licker rather than a collaborator. I don't think the Crusaders would trust you enough to actually cooperate with you in any proceedure beyond having their footwear cleaned by your tongue
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Posted - 2010.08.10 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
I also noticed that you neatly evaded the question ...
Why do you believe a person who never answers direct questions has any right to ask any questions?
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Posted - 2010.08.10 13:50:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 10/08/2010 13:55:46
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
... Someone who treats me with basic respect. I found it's easier to find Amarrians and Caldari who act that way ...
I bet you do. But then thats rather the point isn't it?
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Posted - 2010.08.10 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
. You find it surprising I'm unwilling to answer questions
I really don't. I never expected you to answer questions because I know you cannot. A Nationalist like yourself cannot survive in honest debate. Hence completely unsurprising that you avoid it like the plague.
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Posted - 2010.08.10 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
And what would a former honeytrap and compulsive liar know about honest debate?
Why don't you tell us?
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Posted - 2010.08.10 16:46:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 10/08/2010 16:47:03
Originally by: Merdaneth
Originally by: Syn Callibri
Consider this...Star Fraction makes a better ally than enemy, considering the situation that the Empires have found themselves in currently. This constant bickering and backbiting that is evident here is a waste of time and resources that can be used to a more constructive end.
Star Fraction makes a much better enemy than ally. Their attention galvanizes their opponents and stops infighting. Nothing better to focus the troops then a truly despicable enemy.
Doesn't do wonders for the longevity of their organizations though. Most of our enemies fall apart and become nothing. Lets face it you are not exactly a poster child for the success of the people we've fought are you?
Our allies on the other hand. I hear very few complaints.
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Posted - 2010.08.10 22:04:00 -
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Its true you won a fight.
Well done
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Posted - 2010.08.11 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Muad 'dib
It was almost as if SF actually tryed to fight us last night, grats for the recent ball swelling, shame however it ended as we told you it would.
After viewing the battle video recorded by one of our inteligance members - im really supprised by the way the co-ordination between SF and the minmatar republic was handled. Whoever the FC for that farce should not be FC again and if thats the best you have them i feel a bit sorry for you.
Sometimes even a united force will lose battles Muad'dib. But the biggest challenge any organization faces is fighting when the odds are against and the chance of victory is slim at best. The Fraction fights and fights hard while our enemies fear even to try. This is not something I am ashamed of in the slightest.
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Posted - 2010.08.11 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: Shalee Lianne
Just a sidenote to something that Merdaneth mentioned a few posts back.
Star Fraction does have spies in the Amarr Milita, and I have proof.
-Shalee Lianne
Commodore of the Amarr Militia
Everyone has spies. Even the spies have spies. The only liars are those who claim they don't.
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Posted - 2010.08.11 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Shalee Lianne
Not that I can speak for the whole of the militia, but I can for my Corporation and I assure you we don't. We really don't need them, the information is already out there anyhow. The enemy knows where we are, we know where they are. We know what they fly, they know what we fly. Pretty simple really.
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If you have ever followed the lead of another 24th Crusade FC then you have benefited from their spy network and claiming you haven't is simply dishonest.
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Posted - 2010.08.11 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: Shalee Lianne
Miss Constantine, I said my corporation does not incorporate the use of spies. I can only speak of what I know for absolute certain.
I cannot, and will not speak of the entire militia because I simply do not know what they do. Is it possible? Certainly. I've no idea, really.
Certainly. Its okay to profit from the spy intel gained by others while claiming your own hands are "clean."
As I said. The only liars here are those who claim not to use spies.
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Posted - 2010.08.11 16:31:00 -
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Originally by: Invelious
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Shalee Lianne
Not that I can speak for the whole of the militia, but I can for my Corporation and I assure you we don't. We really don't need them, the information is already out there anyhow. The enemy knows where we are, we know where they are. We know what they fly, they know what we fly. Pretty simple really.
Shalee Lianne
Commodore of the Amarr Miliita
If you have ever followed the lead of another 24th Crusade FC then you have benefited from their spy network and claiming you haven't is simply dishonest.
Can you name FC's in the 24th that have a spy network Ms. Constantine?
You couldn't afford that information dog.
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Posted - 2010.08.11 16:34:00 -
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Originally by: Big MackDaddy
... beyond your own entertainment - which must be dwingling since you loose every battle.
And yet you are the ones continually whining about the war on the forums...
Something doesn't seem to compute.
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Posted - 2010.08.11 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Invelious
I suppose that is one way of saying it, or you can just say we don't want to join the minmatar militia to really help them. Whats stopping star fraction from doing what EM did, because clearly EM succeeded where SF has failed terribly.
Hmmm, EM didn't ever seem to produce quite as many desperate whiny posts from sulking Amarrian Nationalists though did they?
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Posted - 2010.08.11 17:07:00 -
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Originally by: Invelious
People will confirm you have not
So the reason you are crying now is that we have not left?
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Posted - 2010.08.11 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: Invelious
Nice quote snippet, wasn't there some posts about doing this sort of thing, and here you are doing it with excellence. Your the best Jade. Here, let me make easy for you, i'm clearly  atm.
Actually somebody else cried about it while doing it to me. But its neither here nor there. The point I was making Invelious is that the reason you are crying about Star Fraction presence in the warzone is pure and simply that we are still here and you don't like that.
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Posted - 2010.08.11 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: Invelious
I love watching you fail, why in the world would I want anything different. Stay as long as you want, i'm simply indicated that what you are doing is of no real assistance to the Minmatar Militia.
Every time we have been actively involved against the 24th Crusade you have been the cheerleader of tears and whining on Galnet Invelious. And here you are again. Obviously we don't care for your analysis of strategic situations because your reputation on that score is scarcely worth a candle, but it is noteworthy that you put a lot of effort into complaining about the presence of people you claim to have no impact at all.
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Posted - 2010.08.11 18:05:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Blake, take some friendly advice from an enemy - don't think too hard about it. I'd hate for you to die of a cerebral hemorrhage before I got a chance to kill you myself.
You and Blake fighting? 
Thats a little like imagining two cotton-wool-wrapped adult babies belabouring each other with soggy cucumbers in a sauna full of marmelade.
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Posted - 2010.08.11 18:53:00 -
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Originally by: Invelious
Proceeded by a quick change in subject by attacking Rodj and Andreus.
I don't think you can honestly claim we are changing subject by attacking Rodj Blake and Andreus Ixiris really.
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Posted - 2010.08.12 22:09:00 -
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Originally by: Azure Skyclad
.....and plagiarized in significant parts. Andy borrowed his insight from another.
I thought that tripe sounded familiar. 
Hmmm, its a bit desperate when you need to steal that kind of nonsense.
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Posted - 2010.08.16 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: Grimnir
I'd say that those words bear considerable resemblance to the writings of an old scholar, warren spector, but you knew that already...
It's interesting though, in some regards are not all capsuleers simply deus ex machina?
From a certain perspective I can see that, yes. But no surprise to see a toothless nationalist regurgitating the words of others and trying to pass off as his own. Still. Hopefully thus chided the creature will avoid this thread and we can get back to discussing the war
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Posted - 2010.08.16 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
I'm led to surmise from the lack of triumphal catterwauling on this thread, however, that Core Impulse is holding its own respectably, though?
Would that be cheering for more Amarrian Nationalists there from somebody involved with the FDU? (I use the word "involved" in the loosest possible sense of course given that you haven't exactly done much fighting for months).
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Posted - 2010.08.16 15:49:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 16/08/2010 15:52:15
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
You are welcome to this delusion, too, but I'm actually on patrol right now, in Caldari space, and I've been doing the same for days now.
I guess by "patrol" you mean community service or something, picking up litter and cutting the lawns on Heth's estate while penning letters of support for nationalist tyrants the cluster over because there isn't much activity on the FDU public databases.
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Posted - 2010.08.16 16:10:00 -
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On matters of production, research and starship engineering I'd actually be happy to speak with Jacus Roden on the level of an equal Ixris. You, not so much. I suspect this man has a similar view.
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Posted - 2010.08.16 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Actually, if you bothered to check my corporation's public profile, you'd see that Roden Shipyards loves my corporation.
Presumably with the same kind of lukewarm condescending hauteur that fedmart warehouse managers might feel towards a junior checkout clerk on passing the month's trial then?
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Posted - 2010.08.17 15:05:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
... and their agents treat me with a frankly creepy degree of friendliness.
You do realize they don't actually like you right? To them you are simply and unpleasant tool to be used to achieve those tasks thought appropriate to your skillset? Relying on the emotional support of agents for human company is probably a warning sign about something.
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Posted - 2010.08.17 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Ah, and when did I state that I was doing that?
In every desperate attention seeking post you make dear chap. The piteous need for some kind of emotional contact liberally drips off you. Thats why you come every day without fail seeking the cruel verbal humiliation I offer you in this medium because its better than the silence of your corp chat. I can be can very empathic when I try!
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Posted - 2010.08.17 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
You have quite obviously never shared a corporation with Sahaquiel Faust and Friar Kite, otherwise you'd know patently ridiculous that statement is. I wish my corp chat was silent.
You have two whole corp mates!
My my I AM impressed
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Posted - 2010.08.17 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: Invelious
This thread is purely about a war where SF is losing.
Hmmm, admittedly there isn't much fighting at the moment because the Amarrian forces are not very courageous or adventurous - but its quite a stretch to claim we are losing much to the ghosts in opposition at present. Still, by all means come to Kamela more often Invelious, it was nice to see you last night - stay a little longer next time
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Posted - 2010.08.23 14:47:00 -
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The Star Fraction is an independent movement of freespacers opposed to regressive imperialist authority and the tyranny of statist nationalism. You might as well consider us guerilla fighters, irregular partizans, rifles in the hills, ambushes in the belts, warriors who will strike you when they can and fade from view when they cannot.
This is an asymetric conflict of irregulars against a standing army. Quoting figures the standing army achieves against a completely different set of militia recruits to bolster its self-belief and confidence doubtless makes sense to the internal propaganda and morale-boosting function of Core but its precisely irrelevant to the context of the conflict we have declared and continue to prosecute day in day out.
At the moment coming to the IGS to complain about the absence of big battles on the 24th Crusade terms simply convinces us our tactics are working. I know you would prefer to engage us within the docking range of Huola station with half a dozen carriers repping your battleships while we rushed piecemeal onto your guns but you are going to have to live with disappointment if you think thats the way things will go.
When you are strong we are nowhere to be seen.
When you are prepared we are ghosts.
When you are fleeted with your neutral reppers and backed by supercap escalation its like we were never there.
But when you are on your own.
When you take your eye from local.
When you make a mistake.
When you dare take part in a small gang.
We're the shot from the undergrowth that will be the last sound you hear.
And the war will last as long as it needs to.
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Posted - 2010.08.23 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Muad 'dib
Corim do not care if you think your tactics are working, the fact remians your presence is irrelivant and your claims of aiding the minmatar, fictitious.
And you will appreciate that we consider the public-stated opinions of an Amarrian Nationalist regular militia entity to be precisely irrelevant to our choice and selection of tactics. It is for our allies not our enemies to tell us whether our aid is worthwhile.
We understand you don't like the kind of war that is being waged hence you rage against it on the Summit. But regular armies never enjoy the attentions of guerillas and partizans and your statements and comments here have been heard by freedom-fighters before throughout the whole of recorded history.
Nothing new here.
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Posted - 2010.08.23 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: Merdaneth
It seems I have to provide my translation service again.
Nobody cares.
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Posted - 2010.08.23 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: Sharra Savente
Heres a thought put a proper fleet together before starting a forum war. Words mean nothing on the battlefield only action. Your own public KB shows how nonexistent your "Impulse control" offensive is. You want to get CORIM's attention, then fight them using your battleship and capital assets. We dont need any more cruisers or thrashers, lord knows TLF suicides them enough as it is.
Posted with your matari spy identity by mistake?
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Posted - 2010.08.23 19:58:00 -
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Originally by: Sharra Savente
Hmmm so because i dont conform with your lemmings i must be a spy? You sound like the empress herself
More the fact you appeared to have a change of mindstate a little while ago and managed to successfully use a Rattlesnake class battleship in heavy battle with the 24th without losing it while the rest of your comrades got slaughtered. But I could be wrong, nothing in life has any business being perfect.
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Posted - 2010.08.31 16:09:00 -
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Originally by: The VoidStalker
So when you guys actually gonna fight? 
Well we keep looking for one. Fingers crossed before too long we'll find and opportunity that brings Core out of dock at the same time we have a decent fleet out and we'll see what happens. As noted elsewhere you guys are winning on the technicality of K/D ratio at the moment (for whatever that means) but more importantly you are able to act against our allies without us providing substantive opposition. This needs to change and it is now up the Free Captains of the Star Fraction to raise our efforts and improve our performance in the warzone.
Still, we've been in hard places before and it won't be the last time.
So lets see what happens in the months ahead.
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Posted - 2010.09.01 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: Silence iKillYouu
Seems like Star fraction just like to beat there own drums
Were was ur elite rescue omgwtf pwn fleet wen the ROSS pos was under attack?
a mate had to drop CH a cyno to clear the field.
Stop posting in here Jade and get some kills.
I will tell you something right now ... Fighters of the Star Fraction have never been particularly impressed by the attitude of the Ice Fire Warriors and if you consider Star Fraction's involvement in this warzone to be a negative feel free to set us neutral and we will happily recipricate and ignore you.
We didn't declare this campaign to help Ice Fire Warriors because frankly our past interactions have not convinced us that you are friends of the revolution and we are not going to put ships on the line to defend people who are constantly doing us down on galnet and local channels.
We don't need you in our fleets. We don't particularly trust you. There is absolutely no need for us to cooperate.
We are happy to fly with and help ANY member of the TLF who is interested in cooperation and wants to fight CORE more than making cheap forum points however.
But Ice Fire Warriors? You are nobody to us.
We declared this war to help our friends in ROSS. Try reading the op in future before opening your mouths on IGS.
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Posted - 2010.09.01 15:46:00 -
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Keep whining Muad'dib. I'm sure the more you complain about our wardec the more it convinces people its having no effect.
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Posted - 2010.09.01 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: Muad 'dib
nah i just like to chip in every few pages to outline your continued failure, and i enjoy highlighting some of the total rubbish you come out with in 'your defence'
Who is "defending."
We declared war for the reasons clearly stated in the op. Reasons remain hence we are still at war.
Anything else from our enemies is just whining. If you want to war ended come and try to end it.
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Posted - 2010.09.01 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: Muad 'dib
... its hard for the average joe to understand what the heck your banging on about half the time.
I think the "average joe" simply assumes you are continuously whining on our threads because you aren't happy with the situation. Often the simplest answer is the right one.
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Posted - 2010.09.01 20:44:00 -
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As for the "sneaky noob", I'll just categorize you with the rest of the race-traitors and collaborators. You are worthless to the Revolution certainly. As for your continual attacks on the Fraction. Join the chorus, your involvement is equally worthless.
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Posted - 2010.09.01 23:25:00 -
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Originally by: S'inister
Id dare say than noone in CORIM could care less about the wardec ...
Your continually pathetic bleating on this summit seems to suggest you aren't as comfortable with it as you claim. Still, time will out.
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Posted - 2010.09.02 02:42:00 -
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Originally by: Invelious
Also, what are your objectives against DIA, now that the war dec has been declared?
We're rather hoping we can tempt you to undock.
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Posted - 2010.09.02 02:51:00 -
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Originally by: Invelious
WAIT!, if we undock, then you win, is this correct?
You have to admit its quite an accomplishment.
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Posted - 2010.09.02 03:10:00 -
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Originally by: Invelious
No Jade, thats not the accomplishment, the accomplishment is our 5430 combat kills we achieved inside stations while docked.
Sounds scary, I bet we'll hardly be able to move around at all with your elite combat forces infesting the warzone.
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Posted - 2010.09.02 04:04:00 -
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Originally by: Invelious
Not at all, you wont be able to move because you guys do jack Sh!t out there, period. We will go about our business, and you will circle around like vultures trying to score off of the work of the minmatar militia to make it look like you guys are achieving anything of value.
*yawn* change the holodisk, you really are like a stuck record. Fight don't talk, then come and tell us about it.
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Posted - 2010.09.02 12:42:00 -
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Originally by: jasper beamsalot
Jade now claiming that we (IFW) are traitors to the republic blah blah blah, just cause for a single members post on a forum is just laughable, i always thought he was more levelled headed, all we can do now is go grab some popcorn, i guess.
We don't really care what you are. We certainly haven't claimed you are "traitors to the republic". We simply think you are bad forum posters disrespectful to those who were your allies. SF have set you neutral because we are no longer interested in working with those who publicly disrespect the help we have given. Nobody would expect a positive working relationship with people that routinely deploy Amarr-grade smack against friendlies.
As neutrals we wish you the best of luck in the warzone and hope you find success on other fronts against the Amarrians. Since we cannot work together I hope we cause harm to the 24th Crusade working apart.
We remain fully committed against our mutual enemies with any TLF entity that is prepared to simply fight our common foe.
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Posted - 2010.09.02 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: Nano J
IFW has no problem with SF. IFW has a problem with Jade.
I'm guessing this is a problem that will manifest in posting nonsense on the forum and poor quality local smack talk right?
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Posted - 2010.09.02 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Nano J
I'm not one for speaking publicly about this stuff.
You aren't "one" for telling the truth on galnet either it seems ...
Seriously, if you have a problem with me why not speak to me about it privately before bringing this nonsense to galnet - its not like I've been very hard to find. It almost seems like you never tried.
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Posted - 2010.09.02 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: Sneaky Noob
ok, "serious" reply this time:
I personally have no beef against anyone in Star Fraction, any of it's corps or the alliance in general. In the past they have been good allies to the corps in Minmatar Factional Warfare. They have provided intell, cap support, logistical support, and general combat support as well. Now, it is important to note that Minmatar Militia has also provided SF with the same... all in all it was a reciprocal relationship.
Where did it go wrong?
Simply put, the overheating of the propaganda machine without the corresponding results on the battlefield. When SF in general and Jade in particular start shutting up and showing up on the battlefield, all this pointless blaming and name-calling will be rendered moot. Factional Warfare corps on both sides ultimately respect one thing and one thing only. RESULTS. KILLS. Words are ephemeral and meaningless on the battlefield. Back up your words with actions.
Dare to ACT.
Welcome to the Revolution.
You will find constantly insulting your allies doesn't motivate them to fight with you.
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Posted - 2010.09.03 00:35:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 03/09/2010 00:36:38
Originally by: Kuan Yida
I challenge any pilot in Star Fraction to refute my honor.
My personal pod pilot journal addressing my concerns about the current standing of Star Fraction can be found here.
This is a disgraceful and deceitful journal entry and I name you a cowardly crawling dog and challenge you to single combat if you have a valourous bone in your body. Battleships of choice to the death.
Your words are deeply ungrateful to warriors who have bled and sacrificed to our mutual cause. They are a dishonour to your people, your ancestors and your reputation.
Jade Constantine, Executor, Star Fraction.
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Posted - 2010.09.03 03:14:00 -
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Originally by: Shalee Lianne
Good luck Kuan! If you pod Jade can I have the corpse? Pretty please?
Mmm, Amarrians cheering on the Matari against the Fraction. Says it all really. Suggests we are unwelcome guests in a private war rather profoundly.
On the duel.
Claire XXX will be my second and I accept your choice of weapon. Ruptures it will be. Obviously our duel will settle nothing since it is fought for anger and frustration and it will not still the bitterness I feel at the betrayal from those I considered friends and comrades and have fought very hard to help and protect in these long conflicts.
At best it will bring a moments gratification that at last I have brought a disrespectful forum speaker to battle as long as it lasts, but when the battle is done I doubt respect can find a place to rest on the splintered foundation of broken trust between us.
Win or lose you have lost a friend this day. But we will fight for the ritual of the thing. What else is there to do.
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Posted - 2010.09.03 03:49:00 -
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Originally by: Kuan Yida
I fight not from anger or frustration, but to defend and uphold honor, as I expect you do as well.
No, there is no honour in this pitiful display of once allies seeking to kill each other over intemperate and disrespectful language, ungrateful backbiting and snide remarks. Just as their is no mutual respect towards those who wish to put the knife into the backs of those who have bled as comrades at your side in times before.
I don't fight you because I honour you Kuan Yida, this is not a duel for grandious purpose or honourable spectacle. I fight you as a funeral game for my trust and faith in the Matari character. Memorial for what is lost.
Our starships will circle in their violent display and regardless of result we have both lost an ally and friend and the universe will be the harder for us both in the future.
Perhaps you will recruit some of the Free Captains to your cause and I wish them well. Enjoy the friendship of a handfull when you used to have the support of us all.
Let us fight this duel on the ashes of our comradely-sense and invite the amarrians to come and laugh and sing at the pyre.
At the last it makes a wonderfully poignant farce.
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Posted - 2010.09.03 04:41:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 03/09/2010 04:46:23
Originally by: jasper beamsalot
Jade got ****y due to the ppl they have declared to help (mini militia) are agreeing with the enemy that SF is all talk no action in its current incarnation.
As always from the Ice Fire Warriors you post without learning to read. We didn't declare this war to help the Minmatar Militia. We declared it to help our friends in ROSS corp who asked for our help. If the Militia is now dominated by Ice Fire Warriors and you do not seek our help so be it. We don't need nor ask for your involvement as we prosecute our wars against our chosen targets.
Keep out of our way and there will be no problems.
If you engage our fleets we will shorten your pride by the length of your necks. Learn a little respect. It will help you in the long term.
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Posted - 2010.09.03 05:03:00 -
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Originally by: jasper beamsalot
Respect is Earned, that is the entire point, SF has done nothing to earn our respect in the last few months.
And you have never earned ours. So like I said. Keep out of our way and we will have no problems. Fight the Amarrians and keep your mumbling minions off the forums and things will go smoothly.
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Posted - 2010.09.03 06:18:00 -
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Originally by: nasty1
Are you seriously considering ross as an ally
Yes.
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... and even worse are you seriously considering decing a militia Corporation
No.
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... because of something you started, it just makes no sense
Saying its something we started is what makes no sense.
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Posted - 2010.09.05 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Tetseptus
For the record, and for what it is worth, I hereby publicly affirm the honour and character of one of my oldest friends, Kuan Yida. That is all that I wish to have heard by those gathered here.
War like politics and all schisms of the soul can make unlikely allies and stranger combinations. As a free-captain and anarchist I would be less than honest if I did not acknowledge that subjective experience will differ wildly on the divergent histories we each live through. As such I acknowledge my friend and comrade Tetseptus and the honesty of his character and purety of his words. And yes. They do carry weight with me.
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Posted - 2010.09.07 17:45:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 07/09/2010 17:55:25
Originally by: The Cosmopolite
<Communique Begins>
A successful operation to establish a starbase in Huola system was mounted last night with the integral aid of friendly Gallente and Minmatar militia corporations.
The Star Fraction thanks the following corporations for their invaluable assistance:
Archaeus of Blood
CTRL-Q
Genstar Inc
NME1
Percussive Diplomacy
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Royal Order of Security Specialists
Shadows Of The Federation
The 8th Order
As of this communique the starbase is fully-functional and secure thanks to the efforts of allied anti-crusader forces.
The struggle continues.
The Freecaptains of the Star Fraction
<Communique Ends>
My personal thanks to all these organizations that stood with us against a superior number of 24th Crusaders with Carrier Support and home ground station advantage, and also to the Flowing Penguins who came and joined our heroic efforts to shield repair the tower above the critical 50% mark this morning to allow us to anchor additional defenses.
We owe a debt of gratitude to everyone who stood with us that we hope to repay in the blood and bones of regressive Amarrian Nationalism in the weeks and months to come.
And on a personal note,
*embraces her lover warmly with a deep kiss and delicious caress* It was very good to fly alongside with our pair of Abaddons soaking the work the imperialists could do and living to tell the tale!
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Posted - 2010.09.07 21:57:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 07/09/2010 22:07:30
Originally by: Altaen
Congratulations on the succesful operation! Outnumbered and in unfriendly territory, this is a major victory indeed.
Thank you Captain Altaen. And please be aware we are very happy to have the Starbase provide advantage to all allied anti-amarrian forces in Huola system. It operates by SF rules of engagement (NRDS) and will not fire on flagged combatants unless they are also RED. We will supply the forcefield password to any active anti-amarrian forces that wish a staging base against the 24th crusade in the enemy's HQ system. We hope this tower will prove itself as famous as "space and freedom" in Kamela in time and lead to many Amarrian Nationalists cursing its existence as they see their vessels twist and buckle under its Matari broadsides.
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Posted - 2010.09.08 13:55:00 -
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Originally by: Bluejacket CT
We came outnumbered, 20 jumps through lowsec, and on limited intelligence.
last night, the Union killed 10 ships even while fighting against the logistics of 2 of the 24th's carriers on the undock of their own home station with nothing more than a small battleship fleet. The fight outside of the 24th Imperial Crusade station in Huola was a net loss for Union forces, but at the end of the engagement, the 24th had failed to reinforce the starbase, which still stands at full strength today.
Your assistance was very timely and fully appreciated Bluejacket, I think they 24th Crusade armada had managed to bring the new tower shield (no offensive mods online) to 26% shield status and a hairsbreath away from reinforcement by the time your fleet landed on the field and the Amarrian vessels sped away in utter cowardly retreat to the protection of their station.
Must have been extremely frustrating for them to have come so close but achieved so little there.
As for the station-fighting that followed I think we are all coming to understand that the 24th crusade station in Huola is the most powerful hull in the Amarrian fleet. It has infinite defenses, unbreakable shields, and is capable of refreshing the armour and shield belts of Amarrian ships each minute. This "flagship" of the 24th is so important to our collective enemies they hate to leave its embrace and so we must work hard together to find ways to bait the snail out of his shell. I hope the new starbase in Huola will be one such way.
In any case my compliments to your fleet mates Bluejacket. You have demonstrated your friendship in space once again and I salute you for it. Proud opponents of tyranny and delusion you are always welcome in Huola!
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Posted - 2010.09.08 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: Kuan Yida
I congratulate Star Fraction on their successful deployment of a POS in Huola. It is my genuine hope that with such a base, Star Fraction can now stage the ships, pilots and numbers to make their presence a significant threat to the Amarr.
To Star Fraction: Although I suspect my offer will be refused, my own carrier and crew stand ready to support and defend your station, and smite the Amarr at their base system, any time I can be found in pod. The Amarrians of Huola know I do not shirk from fighting them on their home ground.
Your offer will not be refused. The war against the Amarrians of the 24th Crusade is more important than our pride or yours and I appreciate and respect the step you are taking in making this offer. We will not slap away the hands of even estranged friends when there is fighting to be done against a cruel and vicious enemy to us both. Let our example here shame those who prefer to spread discord amongst those who should be comrades.
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Jade, I also still await the negotiations between your second and mine as to when we shall duel, unless you elect to withdraw your challenge? I would not deem such an action dishonorable.
Perhaps the fates have informed us both of the pointlessness of this duel by means of the difficulties our seconds have found agreeing a common time. In the light of your offer to stand with us at the new Starbase in Huola I cannot in good faith turn my guns against you in the matter of a personal duel. I withdraw the challenge.
It gives me quite a lot of pleasure to see my comrade Tetseptus was correct in his assessment of your character after all.
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Posted - 2010.09.10 17:57:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 10/09/2010 18:02:16
We welcome our new brave wardec opponents to the warzone!
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Posted - 2010.09.10 20:23:00 -
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Other corporations have discovered the means to issue wardecs. Perhaps yours can as well Frosteel. As we have always stated concord sanctioned wardecs are a tactical weapon to be utilized and employed at times of our convenience. If you want to take part in the upcoming attempts to rid Huola of our tower without criminal flagging then I suggest you ask Invelious to put his hand in his pocket and pay for the dec.
Don't come to IGS and play the penniless begger whinging for charity.
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Posted - 2010.09.10 20:35:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 10/09/2010 20:35:16
Originally by: Dunn Idaho
No my dear, your attempt at dictating the battlefield has failed.
We shall see. If you are more cowardly than last years Amarrian leadership under Garst Tyrell then we will make great utility of the tower a little over 181,000 kilometers from your dock point games and everybody will be happy. Let us see what happens in space.
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Posted - 2010.09.16 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: Dunn Idaho
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CONCORD invalidates war declared by The Star Fraction against Core Impulse
From: CONCORD
Sent: 2010.09.16 03:46
CONCORD has declared this war invalid as it breaches one or more articles in the Yulai Convention. The war will be declared as being over after approximately 24 hours.
And so ends to war to control the impulse.
By now my dear enemies, I hope you have learned that the very nature of the impulse is something that cannot be controled.
Dunn Idaho
Core Impulse
I forgot to pay the bill. Will be declared again tonight as soon as its allowed.
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Posted - 2010.09.16 22:32:00 -
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Not at all. Its the same campaign and to reinforce the point made a few posts ago: whether we have an active concord war or not as long as we are in the area and focusing on our objectives the campaign remains. There will be times when we doubtless see advantage to dropping the concord dec and concentrating on punishing your low security pilots. But this is not that time and the dec will be renewed shortly. Ultimately you should look to your own pilots and activities and leave your enemies to theirs. If you want to impact our ability to utilize wardecs for our own advantage you have the ability to declare your own.
Ultimately though, less complaining about your enemy's tactics will paint your organization in a marginally better light.
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Posted - 2010.09.16 23:46:00 -
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"Declare" whatever you like Predator. Its not like we haven't heard it all from 24th Crusade local chat before.
Claim you are the long lost son of the Amarrian Empress with a head made of burnished platinum for all we care.
War continues until we say it doesn't.
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Posted - 2010.09.17 00:29:00 -
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Originally by: Predator Elite
... this war will end when Core wants it to end.
What core wants is immaterial. You simply need to realize you are no longer the biggest predator in the paddling pool. Less words more fighting.
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Posted - 2010.09.17 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: Predator Elite
Jade you might want to look at what you wrote "Less words more fighting" undock leave station and you will get a fight.
Not from core impulse on past experience. You are extremely risk averse and unwilling to engage unless you control all the cards in the engagement. It comes to something when we have to use passive target 1400 arty tempests as the only viable way to destroy your ships before they redock at the staton.
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Posted - 2010.09.17 01:26:00 -
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You sound a bit tense there. Things not going quite as you expected?
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Posted - 2010.09.17 01:51:00 -
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Why don't you like our tech1 fit cruisers?
What upsets you about them so much?
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Posted - 2010.09.17 02:27:00 -
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I think the reason you don't like the tech1 Cruisers is because its extra humiliating when your people get killed by them.
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Posted - 2010.09.17 04:26:00 -
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Since we are straying into Archbishop-land with your last comment there Predator. Best we agree to differ and lets hope you prove more aggressive in space over the next few months. You had a dangerous reputation at the beginning of this, lets see if you care to fight to maintain it.
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Posted - 2010.09.17 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: Vaarun
If someone calls SF to the mat with anything that makes them look bad, they call them an "obsessed stalker" and dismiss them.
Generally because they are.
Predator and (I imagine you) are simply complaining about a tactic of war you do not like. I imagine we all know why the Fraction like our regular tech1 cruiser roams - its because we can use them to execute war targets and kill rights targets in the middle of large Amarrian fleets while not suffering any real fiscal damage by the inevitable response of said large fleet. We trade the price of an inexpensive hull for a new collection of killrights we can use to execute enemies elsewhere in the warzone. Its a tried and test methodology and you do not like it because it works.
But then you are our enemy so you are not supposed to like it.
The Fraction is hated by the 24th because we do things your more conventional enemies cannot. We stalk you in Amarrian hisec. We execute your loners with killrights. We break up your formations and force your groups to criminally-flag against inexpensive hulls that give you nothing of value in the loot. We move our operations to your HQ system and assassinate those who sought glory against the fraction by being one of 30 on a tech1 cruiser hull.
Its a very annoying tactic from your perspective I am sure. But its a guerilla warfare technique and it upsets your calm. This is clear by all the whining and complaining you engage in on the forums while we simply keep on with our objectives in space.
But learn this. Crying about our tactics will not make us go away. You'd need to actually fight to achieve that.
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Posted - 2010.09.17 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Vaarun
So...to paraphrase, by letting pilots kill your T1 cruisers, you gain killrights on them, so if they just left you alone, you would gain nothing. You simply dangle a disposable ship for them to kill so you can kill more valuable ships later and possibly in an inopportune moment or high-sec. Clever, and still fitting your "low-risk" methodology.
Certainly. And if the 24th "wise up" and refuse to gcc on our tech1 cruisers then they must stand by and watch while we eliminate and assassinate our war dec targets or natural Amarrian lowsec people. As you can appreciate its effective either way.
But the tactic is no secret Vaarun. Your leadership have known about it for years. Its why the likes of Predator Elite comes here to try to mock it and complain about its employment. Its effective, hence hated by our enemies. Thats why we do it.
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Posted - 2010.09.18 13:37:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 18/09/2010 13:37:39
Originally by: Archbishop
It appears the Star Fraction ... [snipped for the tripe filter]
Dear me. It comes to something when I have to publicly declare our tactics and techniques on the summit so the 24th Crusade can at least understand whats going on and it still goes straight over their heads. When Core Impulse take to using Archbishop for their front man you know something is going embarrassingly wrong in that organization.
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Posted - 2010.09.19 16:32:00 -
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The reality is that PIE Inc. stopped being a relevant wardec target for the Star Fraction quite a long time ago. Why they are still chasing the bus like red-faced frothing lunatics now is more difficult to discern but hardly anything for us to spend much time analysing.
If PIE Inc. wish to play a role in the current campaign then they can find the same wardec procedures as Absinthe and F.E.A.R and Tribal Liberation Wolf's were able to in support of Core Impulse.
If they cannot then their purposeless ranting on this thread is apparent as the futile and impotent windy noise it has become in the eyes of anyone with the sense to see it.
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Posted - 2010.09.19 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: ChipMo
As flattered as I am to have my 'honesty' acknowledged I'm a little bemused how this can be given the condemnation I have had in the very recent past. A complement of convenience I expect, one to be refuted again when it suits.
*ChipMo strokes his chin > humm...
Regardless, I don't see how anything I said contradicts any of Jade's comments in the first place, so its kind of a moot discussion.
Nothing did. This was just the usual kind of desperate attention-seeking posting from washed up failed Amarrian Nationalists. All the information required to decisively refute any point attempted by the loyalists is clearly available in our public statements.
I think at the end of the day this is simply how the Amarrians intend to "fight" now ... waste our time on the forums trying to tempt us into countering their nonsense. But sadly for them forum froth is a poor counter for actions in space and high calibre battleship artillery.
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Posted - 2010.09.20 13:51:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 20/09/2010 13:54:33
Originally by: Archbishop
The primary difference is we don't run to IGS and post a 25 page "campaign" thread to stroke our egos.
The only reason we get a "25 page" campaign thread is that its one page of us telling the summit what we are going to do (while we get on doing it) and 24 pages of Amarrians desperately attempting to talk us into a defeat that they are incapable of achieving in space. Don't like that conclusion?
Do something about it.
Because at this stage even a child can see the desperately sad propaganda attempts from the Amarrian nationalist side of the conflict on this thread. People who are "winning" do not spend so much time trying to pick at their enemies on the summit. They undock in space and achieve something physical.
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Posted - 2010.09.20 15:08:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 20/09/2010 15:09:21
Originally by: Ascentior
Your 'Conclusion' is baseless.
Which is ironic because thats exactly what we intend for Core Impulse.
As for the rest. Typical Amarrian lies utilizing shifty K/D ratio mathematics.
What matters is who is camping who in the station.
We are mocking you with a Fraction tower in Huola while you spin ships.
If you don't like it.
Do something about it.
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 20/09/2010 16:33:21
Originally by: BattleStar Crusader
ber of encounters with Absinthe Brothers.
*** side note***
The use of your Tech1 cruiser fleets is genius i will admit. But when you claim the victory metric of "we forced you to fly sub par ship hull" it makes it look very contradictory.
Don't fall into the trap of uncritically believing what PIE Inc. says. I believe Archbishop is refering to the Judas Goat/Daisy-Cutter/Slaughterhouse sequence of wars in the dusty past where we noted that under wardec from the Fraction, PIE Inc. ceased operations with large ships in any number due to the pressure of their enemies (this was well before the inception of faction warfare and the need for frigates in smaller complexes).
Faction Warfare was of course a huge boon to PIE because they could simply claim that their use of frigates was tactically appropriate for the warzone (which of course it can be given the limitations on certain complex sizes). Granting that led to our conclusion that PIE was no longer a relevant potential wardec target for us since they clearly preferred to fly support roles to the 24th Crusade non-capsuleer authorities than involve themselves with direct leadership and organization of the capsule militias in frontline combat.
This of course hardly explains why PIE feel the need to hoot and bray about other people's wars that scarcely concern them.
My point is don't believe what PIE officers say has been said without considering context and routine misdirection employed by these minor forum warriors.
Much is said about "claims of victory" ... but I will tell you plainly Battlestar without fear of contradiction. We made no claims of victory in Castrato. We admitted defeat. We have made no claims of victory in Impulse Control - the campaign continues.
Any word to the contrary is simply a lie.
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Posted - 2010.09.21 17:49:00 -
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Originally by: Archbishop
As for Jade's claims about PIE flying battleships during her campaigns I'd just invite you to look at her killboard database. This is a lie she's told in the past and it's been disproven already using her own data.
Best way to counter Amarrian lies is for people to read back over the war diaries and be assured the full records of fighting are still listed on our public combat databases as operations "Judas Goat, Slaughterhouse, Daisy Cutter."
Eve search for the operation names and use weeks 1-4 war diaries will demonstrate that the PIE Inc. capability to field extensive battleship fleets was comprehensively crushed by the Fraction leading to Archbishop's own doctrine of "don't undock just smack on the forums" being adopted by their pilots henceafter.
Here's the opening diary for Judas Goat. enjoy.
The tales of epic pounding and face-kicking suffered by Amarrian Nationalism in those old wars will adaquately explain why Archbishop is still so obsessed by the Fraction 4 years later he cannot help by spam-post in a campaign thread in a war he has no stake in or any desire to fight.
I almost pity him.
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Posted - 2010.09.21 18:09:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
I particularly enjoyed reading the "statistics" used by SF representatives in your Judas Goat thread Jade. What was you recently said about such stats? Oh yes:
Originally by: Jade Constantine
shifty K/D ratio mathematics
If you had either wit or honesty you'd know the difference between a straight count between two rival forces in a direct conflict and the K/D ratio twisting the PIE representatives have always tried to hide their weakness with. But then since you are a deceitful Amarrian in the most deceitful Amarrian nationalist entity of all its a bit of a mockery to use the word "honesty" in the same paragraph as a reply to you.
Once again I will point out that PIE Inc. Have absolutely nothing to do with this war, this thread, or the general notion of action in space.
You are simply a forum troll.
Shut up and go away.
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Posted - 2010.09.21 20:20:00 -
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Originally by: lucifers widow
Fact is you are now flying the worthless T1 cruisers now, without the valid excuse of being forced into them for the factional warfare miltary comlex's that need capturing or defending.
If you were active in the warzone you would know how ridiculous that statement was. But as a cowardly posting-proxy for one of our enemies without the guts to show their true identity I imagine I shouldn't be too surprised.
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Posted - 2010.09.22 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Archbishop
Oh yes Jade... your war diaries are so accurate and impartial...
They are entirely accurate and can be cross-referenced directly with the public kill database. For example where you claimed a couple of posts above that PIE never flew battleships before we crushed you its possible for the read to check our campaign diary and the public kill database to show precisely how many battleships you flew in the first week of that old campaign. You yourself lost a battleship in that action that I presume you have conveniently forgotten about. We keep accurate records. It makes revealing a lying snake that much easier.
You are humiliating yourself here. And do stop your officer's using the "lucifers widow" identity. Its getting embarrassing to watch you.
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Posted - 2010.09.22 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
That's a change of tone from just a couple of days ago when you were complaining about loyalists "utilizing shifty K/D ratio mathematics." Apparently it's different when it's SF listing what they've killed and lost though!
The only difference is we don't lie about it.
You do.
Stop trolling.
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Posted - 2010.09.22 19:18:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 22/09/2010 19:19:37
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
The tail of this communication has been cleaned. We would like to remind you to please stay on topic and post in a constructive matter.
Thank you CCP Zymurgist.
I'd like to remind commentators on this thread that it is a campaign thread to discuss matters pertaining to the in-space war between The Star Fraction alliance and our enemies in Core Impulse corporation and their 24th Crusade allies who have wardecced us in support of the Amarrian cause.
This is a thread specifically for those who are actively fighting their enemies in space. As such we welcome commentary and respectful discussion from those involved in the war. And we suggest that those uninvolved should take their responses somewhere else. There are many threads available elsewhere for nitpicking and irrelevant nonsense.
To our enemies - please stop posting with cloaked identities and random proxies. It simply devalues the climate of the summit for all concerned.
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Posted - 2010.09.22 20:13:00 -
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Originally by: Muad 'dib
It was a welcome sight to see many SF pilots active in houla, the first and only real attempt to try to control us since this war began so many weeks ago i cannot remember.
I think we had very polarized activity levels over the summer with many free captains being planetside and matters are only now returning to their natural balanace. On top of that our initial thought was to use Kamela as an HQ to raid against Huola but it didn't really work out hence our decision to move wholesale into the 24th Crusade HQ system and present a more direct threat to our enemies.
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Im slightly sad due the tactic you used, the sniping ships undocking with 5~ tempests, but i commend the effort none the less.
As always we try a range of tactics depending on the situation and balance of numbers in the warzone. I imagine we both dislike dock games and we've simply tried to evolve a method of killing "dock-gaming" pilots with zero prior warning. Five tempests is nice, twenty is better, suffice to say we are still equipping, recruiting and trying to up our capability in these actions.
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I look forward to locking horns in a manly fight of honor and respect, we have given you so many opertunitys to stage a good fight, lets hope one soon meets expectations. Core Impulse likes good fights, we take ganks in our stride as anyone would when an opertunity is available, even a loss can be enjoyable.
To be fair, we have been the ones committing to unwise battleship engagements over the summer to this point and have generally suffered total loss every time we tried to grapple with the Core/24th hybrid fleets while decisively outnumbered. Now the onus is on our forces to fight smart and convince you to fight outside your comfort zone. Rest assured, we will take you bait if you keep offering it - when that happens lets hope the conflict is glorious.
Still I will agree with you. The war to this point has been nothing but an opening skirmish. Lets look forward to the main course.
And once again I'd ask those uninvolved pilots addicted to sniping from the sidelines - just don't. If you want to post in this thread ask your CEO's to declare war and earn a place in the discussion. Otherwise you are welcome to post respectfully - but I think its time for a zero tolerance approach to 3rd party smack from unattributed proxies.
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Posted - 2010.09.23 05:18:00 -
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Originally by: Aldrith Shutaq
As I am sure you have noticed your war with the Knighthood of the Merciful Crown has been made mutual. This will remain until either you surrender, or one of us ceases to exist.
Good.
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